Latin ipse, idem and iste: Himself, the Same, That of Yours
By Michael McGettrickUpdated 11 October 2026
Three words finish the family of hic and ille: means himself, the very one; means the same; means that one of yours. Each agrees with its noun in gender, number and case, like hic and :
| Word | Meaning | Example | English |
|---|---|---|---|
(intens.) | himself, very | | the king himself |
| the same | | the same road |
| that of yours | | that business of yours |
Quick check
Now use it: three quick questions on the chart above. The full practice is further down.
Pick the right one
0/3Pick the word that fits the meaning in brackets.
Rex venit. (the king himself)
homo semper hoc dicit. (the same man)
homo non bonus est. (that man of yours)
All three take the genitive in - and the dative in -i for every gender, as does with and .
ipse: himself, the very one
| ipse | Masc. | Fem. | Neut. |
|---|---|---|---|
| Nom sg | | | |
| Acc sg | | | |
| Gen sg | | | |
| sg | | | |
| Abl sg | | | |
| Nom pl | | | |
The neuter is , ending like , not ipsud on the pattern of . The rest of the plural follows too, as in and .
stresses a noun or pronoun: this one and no other.
.- The king himself is coming..- I say it myself..- He comes on that very day.
ipse is not se
English uses himself for two different jobs, and Latin splits them. is reflexive: the subject does something to itself. only adds emphasis.
| Latin | English | Job |
|---|---|---|
. | The king sees himself. | reflexive |
. | The king himself sees. | emphasis |
. | The king himself sees himself. | both |
Ask what the himself is doing. If it only stresses who acts, and could go without changing what happens (the king himself is coming, the king is coming), it is . If it names the person the action is done to (the king sees himself), it is .
idem: is plus -dem
is the pronoun , , with - glued on. Two adjustments: the masculine nominative is (not ), and an m turns to n before the d:
| idem | Masc. | Fem. | Neut. |
|---|---|---|---|
| Nom sg | | | |
| Acc sg | | | |
| Gen sg | | | |
| Abl sg | | | |
| Gen pl | | | |
The dative singular is ; the masculine plural is or , and the dative and ablative plural or .
.- The same man always says this..- He comes at the same time..- I say the same thing.
iste: that one of yours
declines exactly like , with ist- in place of ill-:
| iste | Masc. | Fem. | Neut. |
|---|---|---|---|
| Nom sg | | | |
| Acc sg | | | |
| Nom pl | | | |
The genitive and dative singular are and . It points at what is near the person you are talking to:
.- That business of yours is not mine..- That man of yours is no good.
In Cicero's speeches against Verres, is how he refers to the defendant, that man of yours, and it drips. Textbooks often turn that into a rule that is always contemptuous. It is not: the tone comes from the context.
Mistakes English speakers make
| Wrong | Right | Why |
|---|---|---|
as reflexive | . | reflexive himself is |
| ipsud | | the neuter of ends like |
| eumdem | | the standard spelling has n before d |
as always rude | read the context | it means that of yours |
What to do next
- Learn
asplus-, sayingandaloud. - Run the drill below, then test every himself: does it stress the doer (
) or receive the action ()? - Go back to hic and ille if any of the shared endings felt new, or on to the Latin pronouns.