Ch 3 · Lesson 25

Enim, eheu, edepol: replies, feelings and oaths

, and always sit second. and for grief, for bravo, and the mild oaths: for men, for women, for both.

The short version

, and never stand first

.

But I am not coming.
Why?

(for) opens its clause, but in classical prose , , and usually second. So , but . A Ciceronian sentence that starts with or is a sure sign of an English speaker.

Linking a reply: second-place words

(for) stands first. (for, you see), (but, and now), (but, indeed) and (so) do not: in classical prose they sit second in their clause, after the first word or phrase ( does open sentences in Sallust and Livy).

First
Second
Rest
  • . - But I am staying.
  • . - For I know this.
  • . - So you are coming.

More on how these join clauses in Latin connectors.

Feelings: eheu, vae, euge, papae

WordExampleEnglish
, ?Oh dear, what have I done?
!Woe to the conquered!
! .Well done!
! !Wow! What a big ship!

takes the dative of whoever will suffer: , woe is me. (An accusative, me, turns up in comedy and Seneca, but the dative is the rule.) is a Gaul's taunt in Livy (5.48.9).

and are both alas. Horace's ode on growing old opens fugaces, Postume, Postume, labuntur (Odes 2.14): alas, Postumus, the fleeting years slip by.

Mild oaths: hercle, ecastor, edepol

Romans swore by gods the way English says honestly. Which god depended on who was speaking:

OathByWho says it
, Herculesmen
, Castorwomen
, Polluxmen and women

Aulus Gellius records the rule: in neque Romanae per Herculem deiurant neque Castorem, in old writings Roman women do not swear by Hercules, nor men by Castor ( Atticae 11.6).

  • . - I really don't know.
  • , ! - Honestly, you did well!

Common mistakes

WrongRightWhy
!! takes the dative
Marcus! Marce! goes with the vocative
. . is never first
. . sits second
? .? . corrects; it does not mean no

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