Ch 4 · Lesson 24Esperanto · Chapter 4 · Lesson 24 · Grammar primer
Da or de: a glass of water
is a glassful; is a glass of THAT water. follows a quantity and never stands before , or .
The short version
Before , gives way to
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measures stuff in general: , a glass of water. Once the stuff is a particular thing you have identified, with , or a possessive in front, standard usage switches to : , a glass of that water; , some of my money. The check is mechanical: if comes next, write .
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Two letters, two different objects. is a glassful of wine: the glass is measuring and the wine is the point, so you can drink it. is a wine glass: the glass is the point and the wine a mere association, so it is probably empty. answers how much, answers what kind or whose. The same contrast runs through , a bottle of milk, against , a milk bottle.
The da rule
A quantity links to the stuff it measures with , and the stuff stays bare. The left side can be an adverb, , or a measure noun:
a glass of water
a cup of tea
a bottle of milk
| Quantity | Esperanto | English |
|---|---|---|
| measure noun | | a e of bread |
| measure noun | | a heap of work |
| adverb | | some water |
| ? | How much coffee? |
The noun after never takes -n, even when the whole phrase is the object. The -n goes on the measure word:
.- I drank a glass of water.
Kruĉo da akvo, a jug of water; botelo da suko, a bottle of juice; bovlo da fruktoj, a bowl of fruit. Each container measures what is in it.
Never da before la
measures stuff in general. Once the stuff is a particular, identified thing (after , or a possessive), standard usage switches to . A few writers defend here when a real measure is meant, but is what you will read and what to write:
| Measured | English | Identified | English |
|---|---|---|---|
| a glass of wine | | a glass of the wine |
| a lot of water | | much of the water |
| a e of cake | | a e of that cake |
| some money | | some of my money |
The check is mechanical: if the next word is , or a possessive, write .
.- She drank a glass of the wine.
da vs de: the minimal pairs
Even with no , the two words say different things:
| Esperanto | English |
|---|---|
| a glassful of wine |
| a glass for wine (maybe empty) |
| a bottle of milk, to drink |
| a milk bottle |
| the door of the house |
answers how much; answers what kind or whose. The clearest word for the empty wine glass is the compound vinglaso; you will still meet used loosely for a glassful, but the careful form is . When in doubt, is the general word and the specialist.
Going further: The quantity words and the rest of the guide, when you want them. This lesson does not need them.
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