Kilo Lingo
Part of Chapter 14

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Quantity: iom, multe, kelkaj and the da Rule

Every language needs a way to say some, a few, a lot and too much, and most of them make a quiet mess of it - English of alone covers quantity (a cup of tea), possession (the house of my father), material (a heart of gold) and about nine other relations, and nobody notices until they learn a language that refuses to blur them. Esperanto refuses. It has a short, regular set of quantity words, and it has a preposition, da, whose only job in the entire language is the quantity link. This article covers both - and versus de is the centrepiece, because it is the one place the topic actually bites.

The quantity words

The working set is small:

iom - some, a bit: (some time)

kelkaj - a few: (a few apples)

multaj / - many / much: ,

- little, not much: (little money)

tro - too much: (too much work)

sufiĉe - enough: (enough time)

tuta - whole: (the whole day)

Notice the split hiding in the list. Some of these are adjectives - , , - and they sit directly on the noun and agree with it, exactly per nouns and adjectives: , , . The others are adverbs or particles - , , , - and they cannot touch the noun directly. They need a link. The link is .

The da rule

A quantity expression links to the substance it measures with .

- a glass of water

- a lot of people

- some time

- a kilo of bread

- a cup of tea

The shape is always the same: quantity on the left, substance on the right, between them. The left side can be a measure noun (glaso, taso, botelo, peco, amaso), a quantity adverb (, , , ), or the question word kiom - how much, the ki- cell of the quantity row in the correlatives table: ? The right side is the stuff being measured, and it stays bare - no article, no -n (the phrase as a whole can be an object, but the noun after never takes -n: ).

English of does this job too, which lulls anglophones into thinking is just of in a hat. It is not, and the next section is why.

Never da before la

Here is the rule that sorts real Esperantists from translation-by-reflex:

never stands before . Or before , or , or any word that identifies. The moment the substance becomes a specific, identified thing, takes over:

- a glass of wine

- a glass of the wine

The logic is genuinely satisfying once it clicks. introduces a substance being measured - wine in general, as stuff. La introduces a thing already identified - that wine, the one on the table. You cannot measure out "wine as stuff" and point at "the specific wine" in the same breath; the two jobs cancel. So when you take a glass from an identified bottle, the relation is no longer pure quantity but a portion of a particular thing, and the portion-of-a-particular-thing preposition is : (much of the wine), (some of that cake).

Mechanical test, no philosophy required: if the next word is , , a possessive or a name, is wrong. Always.

da vs de: the minimal pairs

Strip the article away and the two prepositions still contrast - this is the pair to memorise:

- a glassful of wine. The glass is measuring; the wine is the point.

- a wine glass. The glass is the point; the wine is a mere association - the kind of glass it is, probably empty.

Quantity versus association, in two letters. A few more to calibrate on:

- a bottle of milk (a bottleful, you can drink it)

- a milk bottle (the container for milk)

- a heap of work (a lot of work)

- the door of the house (no quantity anywhere; pure )

And everything English of does that is not measuring - possession ( ), origin, authorship, material - is territory, full stop. is a specialist; when in doubt, is the general-purpose word and the safer guess.

Numbers take no da

One more boundary. A plain numeral is not a quantity - it behaves like an adjective, sitting straight on the noun:

- three apples. Never .

- ten people.

The line runs between word classes, not meanings. Numerals (tri, dek, cent) attach directly; quantity nouns take even when they name numbers - (a million people), dekduo (a dozen eggs) - because and dekduo are nouns and need the link. Same idea, different grammar, and the numbers article has the full inventory.

Which also explains the / doublet from the word list: (adjective, agreeing, no ) and (adverb, linked by ) are both correct and interchangeable. The adverb-plus- version is the idiomatic default in speech; the adjective version reminds you the agreement machinery from nouns and adjectives still applies to any quantity word wearing -a: .

What to take away

  • The quantity words: , , /, , , , . Adjectives among them agree; adverbs link with .
  • The rule: quantity + + bare substance. , , ?.
  • Never (or , ): an identified thing is not a measured substance, and takes over - .
  • The minimal pair: is a glassful (quantity); is a wine glass (association).
  • Plain numerals take no : . Noun-quantities do: , .
  • is a plural adjective and agrees like one: .

See also

  • Nouns and adjectives - the agreement system kelkaj and multaj obey. Chapter 14's other half.
  • Adverbs - where multe and iom come from, and the -e ending they wear.
  • Correlatives - kiom's home row: the quantity series iom, kiom, tiom, ĉiom, neniom.
  • Numbers - the numerals themselves, and why tri needs no da while miliono does.
  • The article la - what la actually signals, which is exactly what da cannot combine with.
  • Prepositions - de's many other jobs, and the rest of the preposition system.

Practise: test yourself

Pick the right one

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da or de? Da measures a substance; de relates an identified thing. The giveaway: da never stands before la.

  1. glaso akvo (a glass of water - a glassful)

  2. multe homoj (a lot of people)

  3. glaso la vino (a glass of the wine on the table)

  4. iom tempo (some time)

  5. la libro mia amiko (my friend's book)

  6. peco pano (a piece of bread)

  7. taso teo (a cup of tea - a cupful)

  8. botelo la lakto (a bottle of the milk we bought)

  9. amaso laboro (a heap of work)

  10. la pordo la domo (the door of the house)

  11. kiom mono vi havas? (how much money do you have?)

  12. peco tiu kuko (a piece of that cake - watch the tiu)

Fill in the blank

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Fill in the quantity word - or, where the blank is on the noun, decide whether da belongs there at all.

  1. Mi havas da tempo. (some, a little)

  2. da homoj venis al la festo. (a lot, many) (the adverb form, with da)

  3. da kafo vi volas? (how much?) (the ki- word for quantity - see the correlatives table)

  4. Mi manĝis tri . (apples - a plain numeral, so no da) (tri sits straight on the noun, and the noun is an object)

  5. Ŝi aĉetis pomojn. (a few - and it agrees with pomojn)

  6. Estas da akvo en la glaso; mi ne povas trinki pli. (too much)

  7. Ĉu vi havas da mono? (enough)

  8. Mi laboris la tagon. (whole - an ordinary adjective, no da) (tuta agrees like any adjective; the day is an accusative of duration)

  9. Li trinkis glason akvo. (a glassful)

  10. Li trinkis glason la vino. (a glass of the wine)

Translation drill

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Translate into Esperanto. Reach for da only where a quantity is measuring a substance - and check for la before you commit.

  1. a glass of water

  2. I have a lot of time.

  3. How much money do you have?

  4. I ate three apples.

  5. She drank a glass of the wine.

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Frequently asked questions

What does da mean in Esperanto?
It is the preposition that links a quantity to the substance it measures: glaso da akvo (a glass of water), multe da homoj (a lot of people), iom da tempo (some time), peco da pano (a piece of bread). The left side says how much, the right side says of what. English uses of for this and for a dozen other jobs; Esperanto splits the workload - da is only ever the quantity link, and everything else that English of does belongs to de.
What is the difference between glaso da vino and glaso de vino?
Glaso da vino measures: a glassful of wine, the glass telling you the amount, the wine being what you get. Glaso de vino associates: a glass that has to do with wine - a wine glass, the kind made for wine, quite possibly empty. Da answers how much; de answers what kind or whose. If you drank glaso da vino you drank wine; if you dropped glaso de vino you swept up glass.
Why can you not say da la in Esperanto?
Because da introduces a substance being measured, and la introduces a thing already identified - the two jobs cancel out. Multe da vino measures wine as a substance. The moment you say the wine (that wine on the table, the one we identified), you are no longer measuring a substance but taking a portion of a specific thing, and that relation is de: glaso de la vino, multe de la vino. The rule of thumb is mechanical - never da la, and never da tiu or da mia either, for the same reason.
Do numbers take da, like tri da pomoj?
Plain numerals do not: tri pomoj (three apples), dek homoj (ten people) - the numeral behaves like an adjective and sits straight on the noun. Da appears when the quantity word is a noun or an adverb: miliono da homoj (a million people - miliono is a noun), amaso da laboro (a heap of work), multe da akvo. So the same idea can go either way: multaj pomoj (adjective, no da) and multe da pomoj (adverb plus da) are both correct and mean the same.
Does kelkaj agree like an adjective?
Yes - kelkaj (a few) is an adjective in the plural, and it takes the same agreement as any other adjective: kelkaj pomoj as subject, kelkajn pomojn as object (mi manĝis kelkajn pomojn - I ate a few apples). No da: the quantity word is sitting directly on the noun, adjective-style, exactly like multaj. The singular kelka (some, a certain amount of) exists but is rare; iom da covers that ground in practice.