Ch 11 · Lesson 11

The Mass responses: the dialogue

, ; ; . What the people answer, literally, and the cases inside each reply.

The short version

: takes the ablative

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vobiscum is cum glued on the end of vobis; the ablative twice over
Why?

The response everyone knows is a preposition lesson: takes the ablative, so becomes and follows it to . Every time you answer the celebrant you are declining a fourth-declension noun correctly, which is more than most first-year students manage under exam conditions.

The people's parts of a Latin Mass are short, fixed and few. Here is each one as the Missal prints it, with a literal English line and the grammar that makes it work. Most of that grammar is cases.

ablativedativeaccusativegenitivevocativeWhat do the colours mean?
When (Missal)PriestPeople
throughout (both) . .
the start (1962)Introibo altare . laetificat iuventutem .
the Kyrie (both)Kyrie, eleison.Kyrie, eleison.
readings (current) . .
the Gospel (both) (1962) or Lectio (current) Evangelii... , .
after it (both)(the end of the Gospel) , Christe.
offertory (both), ...Suscipiat sacrificium...
preface (both) . .
preface (both) . .
after the consecration (current)Mysterium . annuntiamus, ...
prayers (both) .Amen.
the peace (both) . .
dismissal (both), . .

"1962" is the 1962 Missal, the Traditional Latin Mass. "Current" is the Roman Missal of Paul said in Latin, the , now in its third edition (2002, reissued 2008). Books of the 1962 Missal print j (justum for ); the words are the same.

Dominus vobiscum: et cum spiritu tuo

ablativeWhat do the colours mean?
  • Priest: . - The Lord with you.
  • People: . - And with your spirit.

Neither line has a verb, so the Latin never says whether this is a statement (the Lord is with you) or a wish (may the Lord be with you).

takes the ablative. is fourth declension, whose ablative singular ends in -u, and agrees with it:

CaseFormHere
nominativethe spirit (a subject)
ablativeafter

is again, stuck on the end of : with you (all). Latin does the same with every personal pronoun, as in , with me.

The words come from Paul, who ends a letter with them (2 Timothy 4:22, Vulgate):

Iesus Christus .

The Lord Jesus Christ with your spirit.

is said only by a bishop, priest or deacon. More on the fourth declension: the fourth and fifth declensions.

Deo gratias and Amen

dativeaccusativeWhat do the colours mean?
  • . - Thanks to God.

Two words, two cases, and English hides both behind one word. is dative, the one who receives; is accusative plural, the thing given. Supply a verb such as and it is , we give thanks to God.

It answers three lines:

Priest or readerWhenMissal
.after the first readingscurrent
(end of the Epistle)the answers alone1962
, .the dismissalboth

In the 1962 Missal Benedicamus , let us bless the Lord, replaces , when another rite follows, and gets the same answer.

Amen is not Latin at all. It is Hebrew, from a root meaning firm or sure, and the liturgy kept it untranslated. It does not decline, so it never changes: it answers every prayer that ends , for ever and ever.

Sursum corda: the preface dialogue

pluralaccusativedativeWhat do the colours mean?
WhoLatinLiterally
Priest .Hearts upward.
People .We have them to the Lord.
Priest .Let us give thanks to the Lord our God.
People .It is fitting and just.

is the trap. To an English eye - looks feminine singular, but , is a third-declension neuter, and neuter plurals end in - in the nominative and accusative:

cor, a heart; corda, hearts

takes the accusative (). is the present subjunctive of , the "let us" form: let us give thanks. are neuter because the subject is an unstated "it": it is fitting and just. See the subjunctive for .

has no object: the official English, "We lift them up to the Lord", supplies one.

Going further: The Confiteor: mea culpa and the rest of the guide, when you want them. This lesson does not need them.

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