Ch 11 · Lesson 11Latin · Chapter 11 · Lesson 11 · Grammar primer
The Mass responses: the dialogue
, ; ; . What the people answer, literally, and the cases inside each reply.
The short version
: takes the ablative
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The response everyone knows is a preposition lesson: takes the ablative, so becomes and follows it to . Every time you answer the celebrant you are declining a fourth-declension noun correctly, which is more than most first-year students manage under exam conditions.
The people's parts of a Latin Mass are short, fixed and few. Here is each one as the Missal prints it, with a literal English line and the grammar that makes it work. Most of that grammar is cases.
| When (Missal) | Priest | People |
|---|---|---|
| throughout (both) | . | . |
| the start (1962) | Introibo altare . | laetificat iuventutem . |
| the Kyrie (both) | Kyrie, eleison. | Kyrie, eleison. |
| readings (current) | . | . |
| the Gospel (both) | (1962) or Lectio (current) Evangelii... | , . |
| after it (both) | (the end of the Gospel) | , Christe. |
| offertory (both) | , ... | Suscipiat sacrificium... |
| preface (both) | . | . |
| preface (both) | . | . |
| after the consecration (current) | Mysterium . | annuntiamus, ... |
| prayers (both) | . | Amen. |
| the peace (both) | . | . |
| dismissal (both) | , . | . |
"1962" is the 1962 Missal, the Traditional Latin Mass. "Current" is the Roman Missal of Paul said in Latin, the , now in its third edition (2002, reissued 2008). Books of the 1962 Missal print j (justum for ); the words are the same.
Dominus vobiscum: et cum spiritu tuo
- Priest:
.- The Lord with you. - People:
.- And with your spirit.
Neither line has a verb, so the Latin never says whether this is a statement (the Lord is with you) or a wish (may the Lord be with you).
takes the ablative. is fourth declension, whose ablative singular ends in -u, and agrees with it:
| Case | Form | Here |
|---|---|---|
| nominative | | the spirit (a subject) |
| ablative | | after |
is again, stuck on the end of : with you (all). Latin does the same with every personal pronoun, as in , with me.
The words come from Paul, who ends a letter with them (2 Timothy 4:22, Vulgate):
Iesus Christus.The Lord Jesus Christ with your spirit.
is said only by a bishop, priest or deacon. More on the fourth declension: the fourth and fifth declensions.
Deo gratias and Amen
.- Thanks to God.
Two words, two cases, and English hides both behind one word. is dative, the one who receives; is accusative plural, the thing given. Supply a verb such as and it is , we give thanks to God.
It answers three lines:
| Priest or reader | When | Missal |
|---|---|---|
. | after the first readings | current |
| (end of the Epistle) | the answers alone | 1962 |
, . | the dismissal | both |
In the 1962 Missal Benedicamus , let us bless the Lord, replaces , when another rite follows, and gets the same answer.
Amen is not Latin at all. It is Hebrew, from a root meaning firm or sure, and the liturgy kept it untranslated. It does not decline, so it never changes: it answers every prayer that ends , for ever and ever.
Sursum corda: the preface dialogue
| Who | Latin | Literally |
|---|---|---|
| Priest | . | Hearts upward. |
| People | . | We have them to the Lord. |
| Priest | . | Let us give thanks to the Lord our God. |
| People | . | It is fitting and just. |
is the trap. To an English eye - looks feminine singular, but , is a third-declension neuter, and neuter plurals end in - in the nominative and accusative:
takes the accusative (). is the present subjunctive of , the "let us" form: let us give thanks. are neuter because the subject is an unstated "it": it is fitting and just. See the subjunctive for .
has no object: the official English, "We lift them up to the Lord", supplies one.
Going further: The Confiteor: mea culpa and the rest of the guide, when you want them. This lesson does not need them.
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