Ch 1 · Lesson 10Portuguese · Chapter 1 · Lesson 10 · Grammar primer
Ser or estar? Naming against describing
Permanent against temporary works for a month and then leaks. The line that holds: names what something is, describes the state it is in.
The short version
Permanent against temporary will let you down
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It is a useful first approximation and it leaks in both directions: being dead takes , and a price can take even though it changes every week ( é?). The better question is whether you are naming what something IS, which is , or describing the condition it is IN, which is .
The shorthand, and why it will let you down
Almost every course opens with permanent against temporary, and it is a fair place to start:
.- He is her father. (that does not change).- I am at home. (I will not be later)
Use that rule and you are right most of the time in your first month. Then it leaks, in both directions:
| Sentence | English | Why it fails |
|---|---|---|
. | He is dead. | permanent, yet |
? | How much is it? | prices change, yet |
. | She is young. | youth passes, yet |
So the shorthand is scaffolding, not the building.
The line that actually holds
Ask which of these two you are doing:
- Naming what something IS: its identity, origin, job, what kind of thing it is. That is
:., she is a teacher. - Describing the condition it is IN: where it is now, how it stands, what has happened to it. That is
:., she is tired.
- .
- .
- .
- .
What each of them is: a job names the person, so ser, however long they keep it. (EP says polícia for a police officer.)
Read that way, the awkward cases stop being awkward. Death is a state a person has ended up in, not a category of person, so . A price is presented as a fact about the thing, so . The line is not about how long something lasts; it is about classifying against describing.
How to get it right without thinking
Three habits cover most of what you will say in your first months:
- Where a person or a movable thing is:
.., he is here. - Where a building or a city is: ficar is the usual Brazilian choice.
?, where is the museum? - Identity:
. Names, nationalities, jobs, family:., she is my sister.
If you know Spanish, the Spanish ser and estar maps onto this closely, but where Spanish says a building somewhere, Portuguese says . Both verbs are in the first chapter of the Portuguese course, which is where to make them automatic.
Going further: Ser vs estar: the uses in one table and the rest of the guide, when you want them. This lesson does not need them.
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